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You can be a genius of blinding brilliance, but if you come from a boring product team, you "don't have much potential". L8=Partner/GM. >Real HR managers from Microsoft would have just three [sic]s in a post of that length.I hope HR gets cut. And to your boss. I am a troll. Thats what I call implicit :). To the guy you said:I'd like to hear some more experiences from MCS. Raymond V. Gilmartin 3,4 Former Chairman, President, Chief Executive Officer, Merck & Co., Inc. W. Reed Hastings 3 From my perspective (L67) here's what you need to nail:1. First, self criticism to identify weaknesses. Here is my question, I don't trust that my manager will fight for me to get me to 63 for the following reasons:- The area I own is not big enough for a 63 but at the same time there is not other areas he can give to me given where we are as a team without taking away from my peers, something he would not want to do unless there is a big problem with a peer not delivering which is not the case.- Innovation - this leaves me with trying to come up with other areas that the team can focus on in addition to current goals to leap frog us and which I can own; so far even though some of my ideas are really good (according to the mgr) the timing is off (ie the team has not reached that level yet where my ideas would be practical to implement given the big ROI)In short I can't trust that this mgr will get me to 63 in a time frame that I would like to see it happen (provided that I nail the qualities you highlight for a 63) which leaves me with the following choices:-Sticking around and continue working on displaying 63 qualities until the above points change, and who knows how long that will take- leave for another team internally (which means a bit of time to establish myself again etc) but at the same it would give me more clear timeline of when I can say I am 100% delivering as a 63.-get external offers (eg from Google), bring it up with the mgr and thereby force a change (more responsibility) since leaving would hurt the team in at least the short term. did this post dieNo, the Mini-Electronic Brain did. Outside of those two situations, I have never asked for a promotion. Here are my thoughts on the Level 62 to Level 63 transition in the product groups: 1. You go along with a good boss/employee relationship then all of a sudden, it's like you killed his first born. If you job simply doesn't scale to that next level - and many don't / can't - then you need to build rapport with your manager to have a focused career discussion about what roles are around to get you there and how you could land in one.2. Thrive on it! I heard that promotion budgets are significantly reduced at below 65 level. Also known as executive-level, senior-level seniority requires a high level of experience, knowledge and responsibility within a company. Don't discount the power of a mgmt chain that believes in you. They took credit for work done by others (#2 helps).Seriously, they only way to separate the wheat from the chaff in this company is to allow to interview without notifying the manager. I wasn't sure I was going to get out of a couple of those situations but after everyone of them, I was stronger and smarter.Take the challenge and go after tough problems. If I was looking at reducing costs this isn't exactly where I'd set my sights first but again this is Microsoft we're talking about. By contrast high performers have a fairly accurate self assessment, but are slightly self critical of themselves as well as others. No matter how good you are, you will peak at some point and Microsoft will get rid of you. It going to be more about survival in the current business climate. You have to be extremely faithful to your management while at the same time carefuly growing your broad influence to your manager's piers. With wide-eyed wonder he asked WHAT? I said whatever the @#$% your manager most needs you to do!6. Ive seen many people who didnt quite fit at MS go off and be very successful at other companies, starting their own biz, changing careers, by finding a better fit for themselves. Unless you're an asshat, in which case see mini's comment about slapping yourself around and listening to what other's think about you.And in those huge orgs with all the noise it is really easy for folks to rest and *ahem* vest, so you are overlooked by default.The key as mini and others have stated is finding the tech and team you love and everything flows from there (because you will be so excited you will go home and work another 4 hours every night examining customer feedback, competitive products, etc. Microsoft Software Engineering Manager salary levels ranges from 63 (SDE Lead) upto 80 (Corporate VP), with 80 (Corporate VP) level earning average salary of $4851k along with $3675k worth of stock options. When someone else is waiting on you for something, don't be the reason they can't get their shit done.4. "Your Recently Promoted L63 Peers"? Sorry for going dark for so long. Its above level 64 that things get tough, but getting to 64 isn't difficult. Is there much motivation to really fix Vista's perception problems?Machiavelli might note that intentionally leaving Vista's reputation in the toilet will make Windows 7 look all that much better when it comes out - allowing some of our VP's pride, ego's and bank balances to swell to truly epic proportions. The education qualifications required for various roles for Technical track are: The highest job title in management track in Microsoft is "Vice President (VP)". The Job titles for this position are: Following is the complete list of Job levels at Microsoft: The highest job title in technical track in Microsoft is "Technical Fellow". We in general hire very smart people who can figure it out. The CSPs are a good attempt to define each level, but anyone who is looking at the CSPs and saying I do that, and that, , but Im not getting promoted is almost certainly missing the point. Thankfully, those are relatively uncommon. Answer to second question is never ever explicitly try to make yourself known to hierarchy above your manager. The point here is that I have more than once seen folks that were very talented and super stars get bumped for someone less talented but more vocal. Much longer if new leadership comes from outside MS. Don't perform flawlessly to the above 70+ pieces of feedback only to see the churn above you. But power plays are at work and I get smacked when I try and take on extra work. What's worse is the noise this creates. For example, when I joined MS in 1990 there were 6 devs working on the first version of Word for Windows. The soft skills definitely matter. To change Microsoft so that it is small and efficient, and therefore more in line with your thinking?Are you changing your stance because you're leaving the 'hoi polloi' behind? I've also worked for great managers, and worked with great people on my team. Its UI is fundamentally incoherent, showing probably the worst case of design-by-committee since the control room at Three Mile Island. Experienced Digital Transformation & creative leader with a strong executive presence, experienced in creating value, building relationships & consensus across board-level client executives that . "I actually find the content of this post to be superficial, fairly naive and not reflective of my experience having moved through the ranks from 59 to >65. I'm not looking for any off-topic comments let alone woe-be-me comments - remember that slap thing? If you can't ever figure it out, and if you can't become a "favorite underling", then it's time to find a different group with people you can better relate-to. One question a manager will think about before promoting you is how many times he had to clean up after you pissed off someone else - especially if it's someone on another team. If you have a good manager he/she will ensure the relevant peers know all about it. Taking on the toughest hardest problems does line up well with something everyone has talked about on this post - that is - make your managers look good. But anyway, EOF for that angle. Tips for getting them on your side:1) Ask for Exceeded. great post. below 63 one has low influence and above 64, it is more strategizing and less execution.Overall, my experience has been that promotion is the effect of results and good work. You want to test more cases than he does, you want to build something that draws users to what you're doing more than to his.Having part of the bonus be for how the team succeeded relative to the other teams might focus competition towards the competition and not exclusively on co-workers.Add up the review scores of each team member and rank teams. Some related job titles areMarketing Director salaries with median pay of $163,348,Senior Consultant salaries with median pay of $123,519,Senior Product Manager salaries with median pay of $193,845,Managing Director salaries with median pay of $333,006. IBM pulled themselves out of their decline by focusing on their customers. Let's connect and I will happily share more about my background and accomplishment and how I can contribute to the success of your organization. It doesn't matter what you want - you aren't the one deciding when you get promoted. Its, actually, quite a short list. * Leaving the company - oh, the all too easy escape: I have seen that mentioned in quite a few comments. my recommendation is you take the offer if you've gone this far. How? Your lead. Because, IMO, that is the jist of jcr's post. Here is a nice place to start :-)http://guestgame.com/. How long do people usually sit at L62 in MCS? Microsoft, Go to company page He identified the common denominators in becoming an expert in practically any field. We discussed progress at least once a month. One of the interesting things about the level structure that I find interesting is that you are always expected to perform higher than your level. A Principal-level employee at Microsoft is someone who drives strategic efforts in their area of expertise. L65 here, worked up from L59 (actually, 10 in the old system).The key is always to keep your eye on the goal. It's not enough that you do a good job for your own assignments beyond L62 but what matters is how many others you enable to do as good job as you can do and achieve similar outcomes by influencing them. I'm at 62, have been for lo, these many years. .css-1uhsr4o{margin-right:8px;}Get Paid, Not Played. weeks to find another position within the company, otherwise they are laid off.Given 6 weeks to find a position now is a suicide (since most groups can't hire due to the freeze). If youve been at Level 62 longer than about 3 years MS may not be the best fit for you and you should probably be considering other options.kc. Could somebody please confirm or deny this. Secondly, finding a suitable mentor to help them overcome that weakness. Whenever his lead would ask him to do X he would refuse and insist on doing Y instead. It takes a little time to get on your skip-level manager's radar. And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm 99.9% sure what needs to change is you. I guess they are fallible humans too. I also agree with the promotion-on-transfer point. I left eight years after that when I realized that L66 wasn't going to happen for me.The bottom line: If your boss isn't pushing for you, get them on your side or leave the group. But if you think you should be promoted and your manager doesn't, you shouldn't sit and seethe -- you must understand what it will take. You want to be more efficient, smarter than him. Eng, Go to company page Apple should in no way be throwing stones at Microsoft in this regard. I have to agree with a few that have posted already. I've been at 59 for going on four years now, and was told by my manager over 2 years ago that I was totally ready and qualified for promotion to L60, but that "there wasn't enough budget" (yeah right), and this was in *Office* (a group which is clearly strapped for cash, I guess). I am not saying the manager is trying to sabotage, but when push comes to shove will you get the impactful project. While a manager can help coach you, and you can follow the advice in this post and comments (most of which are great, by the way), you have no way of knowing if there are 0 or 10 people also on the team doing the same things, ahead of you for the limited number of promotions available. Microsoft's '08 Mistakes: The Software Giant's Three Errors http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/121908-microsofts-08-mistakes-the-software.html?hpg1=bnJust three? Had I only known this info when I started at Microsoft. Understand not just what needs to happen, but WHY. Some of them don't have a very good idea of what a Level 65 does since they have not had much experience with those promotions. I have some colleagues now stuck with a career that they dont really want because they move up too much. Framed on my former VP's wall:"High-level guys are low-level guys that don't whine.". Today's top 83,000+ Senior Director jobs in United States. It can help you identify blind spots which may be holding you back.7. Next, make sure your manager values your contributions and surpass their expectations, making yourself invaluable and not immediately replaceable. Don't like branching strategy? . No, L7 is 66-67. After that, I was given a team that was dysfunctional and the most problematic area of the product - now its the area that customers rave about and the team is running smoothly.The bottom line is that takes (1) very hard work (2) you need to build your skills (3) personality to drive the solution in spite of the process and (4) demand excellence from others - including managing out those that will never deliver quality (some folks are net losses to the team).I always hear the whining from folks that get stuck at level 62/63 but when those tough challenges are out there, they don't volunteer and they certainly don't go looking for the biggest challenges. It's a good time to flip back through that. I've been 3.5 years at 62 and re-orged every year in mobile.Any ideas on how to carry greats results of one role into another through a re-org. on this one. Levels 57 and 58 are reserved for non-permanent employees and Levels 59 and 60 are reserved for New Graduates. But it should definitely keep me up in the top of the class, and getting a nice review score + kudos + a job well done with results is a reward in itself (that I crave for more than the actual promotion).I have given this suggestion to Lisa, but I have not seen any action so far. Anyone moved from Office to some other part of company? We have covered both technical and management track at Microsoft. Feedback is not detailed or actionable. keep in mind mentors are not one size fit's all. Perhaps someone can explain to me how you get successfully promoted without your boss's support. 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